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Colour Uk Go to (Uk)
Black/white Start key
Red/black CDI charge
green masse ground
blue Capteur Ignition timing
Red/white RC valves timing
Black/yellow Spark+tachometer
Green/white Security stand
zkus si prelozit toto:
THE IGNITION BUG
Ignition is composed of a coil with a large black wire on which is screwed a cap, of a CDI unit, of a pair of charging coil in the alternator (about 200V AC), of a impulse coil. What do I have to do if I am broken down? Initially test Front system: check that your plug cap is engaged completely. Watch your plug, if it’s fatty of gasoline you’ve got an ignition problem .A small test will be easy: Put the plug on the cap and flat pose it on the cylinder head, give 2-3 blows of starter
1) If you see sparks on the plug, your ignition seems ok, probably a question of timing (see impulse coil).
2) if not, test in the order the coil and then the alternator.
3) If everything ok your CDI is probably worn , prior of changing it , check your wiring and the connectors
Note : the spark is normally blue , if it’s yellow-red it could be the sign of low charging by the alternator
checking the coil
You need an ohmmeter of good quality and preferably digital (more precise). A coil is an autotransformer with a primary (wire black/yellow and green) and a secondary (the large black wire with the cap)
- Primary 0.1 - 0.3 Ohms
- Secondary with the cap 6500 to 9700 Ohms (bottom inside and a terminal on the coil)
- Secondary without the cap 2700 to 3500 Ohms (unscrew the cap, test middle black and terminal)
The cap has a value ranging between 3000 and 7000 Ohms and to test it is enough to make the 2 measurements above, if you to replace it buy one Bent.
Checking alternator
The measurement of the stator 0.7 Ohms between each yellow (they are coils production of current) and 80 to 180 Ohms between red/black and green (charging coils of CDI). For information: each yellow wire corresponds to 3 coils (poles) in series, the 3 wire yellow are connected in Y as in a three-phase electric system, this is why if you test between 2 yellows you has 6 coils in series (either 6 poles). The stator thus has 9 small poles (3x3) + 2 large poles (CDI charging with 2 reels in series).
Checking impulse coil
ignition is timed by a small coil which creates the releasing current of the CDI THYRISTOR door, this coil has 2 wires blue and green/white , the wire of exit on the alternator are located close to wire of exit of the load. the ohmmeter must indicate to you between 180 and 280 Ohms.
1 reakcí na tento příspěvek NSR- Neháže jiskru
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nebo se to da oblbnout za par korun taky se zhorsi spodek ale nepatrne a nebo zadraz a to pak funguje jako s otevrenou priverou. cdi umim otevrit
Naposledy editováno 12.06.2011 21:00:04
milion píše: na motorce mas cdi coz je zapalovani a ovladani privery coz ovlada priveru. to kdyz odpojis muzes si nechat priveru otevrenou a ochcat tak zavrenou jednotku ktera otevira priveru nad 7000 jen na 70%. sice se zhorsi spodek ale vrsek bude velice dobrej..
nebo se to da oblbnout za par korun taky se zhorsi spodek ale nepatrne a nebo zadraz a to pak funguje jako s otevrenou priverou. cdi umim otevrit
jak ji odpojim?
Naposledy editováno 12.06.2011 21:05:41
DuckerCZ píše: Ano přívěra má vliv na startovani ..ale pokud ti nedává jiskru tak je ti to muze bejt stejne jedno
- no ale zda otevirani a zavirani privery nema vliv na házení jiskry protoze stavado cívky jde a mam i jinou ale proste civka to nehodí dáll ...1 reakcí na tento příspěvek NSR- Neháže jiskru
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milion píše: mozna ti odeslo cdi ;) nemenil si ho treba zavreny za otevreny cdi? priveru odpoj ta na to nema vliv.. jinak z altiku by ti melo jit. heled kdyz startujes hejbe se ti otackomer??
Colour Uk Go to (Uk)
Black/white Start key
Red/black CDI charge
green masse ground
blue Capteur Ignition timing
Red/white RC valves timing
Black/yellow Spark+tachometer
Green/white Security stand
zkus si prelozit toto:
THE IGNITION BUG
Ignition is composed of a coil with a large black wire on which is screwed a cap, of a CDI unit, of a pair of charging coil in the alternator (about 200V AC), of a impulse coil. What do I have to do if I am broken down? Initially test Front system: check that your plug cap is engaged completely. Watch your plug, if it’s fatty of gasoline you’ve got an ignition problem .A small test will be easy: Put the plug on the cap and flat pose it on the cylinder head, give 2-3 blows of starter
1) If you see sparks on the plug, your ignition seems ok, probably a question of timing (see impulse coil).
2) if not, test in the order the coil and then the alternator.
3) If everything ok your CDI is probably worn , prior of changing it , check your wiring and the connectors
Note : the spark is normally blue , if it’s yellow-red it could be the sign of low charging by the alternator
checking the coil
You need an ohmmeter of good quality and preferably digital (more precise). A coil is an autotransformer with a primary (wire black/yellow and green) and a secondary (the large black wire with the cap)
- Primary 0.1 - 0.3 Ohms
- Secondary with the cap 6500 to 9700 Ohms (bottom inside and a terminal on the coil)
- Secondary without the cap 2700 to 3500 Ohms (unscrew the cap, test middle black and terminal)
The cap has a value ranging between 3000 and 7000 Ohms and to test it is enough to make the 2 measurements above, if you to replace it buy one Bent.
Checking alternator
The measurement of the stator 0.7 Ohms between each yellow (they are coils production of current) and 80 to 180 Ohms between red/black and green (charging coils of CDI). For information: each yellow wire corresponds to 3 coils (poles) in series, the 3 wire yellow are connected in Y as in a three-phase electric system, this is why if you test between 2 yellows you has 6 coils in series (either 6 poles). The stator thus has 9 small poles (3x3) + 2 large poles (CDI charging with 2 reels in series).
Checking impulse coil
ignition is timed by a small coil which creates the releasing current of the CDI THYRISTOR door, this coil has 2 wires blue and green/white , the wire of exit on the alternator are located close to wire of exit of the load. the ohmmeter must indicate to you between 180 and 280 Ohms.
nic jsem neměnil normal byla nastartovaná a chcípla a pak najednou už nehodila jiskru měnil jsem cívku za jinou a k cívce šťáva jde ale jiskra stále žádná. a přívera moturek at je tam klicek otoceny ci ne tak je na pozici low. a proste jiskru ne a ne hodit
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milion píše: DuckerCZ> neproblikne ti cidlo stojanku? :)
To si nestihnu vsimnout ..ale když chci znova nastartovat tak musim prohmatat ty kontakty pod nadrzi
Naposledy editováno 12.06.2011 22:17:36
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Naposledy editováno 13.06.2011 21:20:32
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Lukas512 píše: Jo a k tématu zkus se ještě jednou podívat na tu fajfku kámoš to měl že vyjel z baráku a po 400m mu to chciplo.. hfajfka nedrzela na svicce tak koupil za 35,- novou a problém vyřešen
to je k mímu problemu nebo k jeho?
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Edit: aha já myslel žes to založil ty tak sory
Naposledy editováno 13.06.2011 21:30:20
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